It may not display this or other websites correctly. Ok yes the firmware and software was installed. I've been lucky enough to have purchased of a Virpil CM2 throttle and a Constellation Alpha on Warbird base and I think they are fantastic! Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. They've all been excellent, but I wouldn't choose a Delta for a primary grip in any game; it's ambidextrous which is cool I guess, but while it's good for either hand, it's not great for either hand. Virpil's compression springs in the Mongoos are nice, but the WarBRD doesn't use them. I have an in-depth write up here. I'd pass on the NXT if your budget allows for something with cams. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. Thanks, Ill take your advise. and our TL;DR: worth waiting and paying for Virpil over VKB if I'm leaning Virpil and want as many fingertip buttons as possible? Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. Something went wrong. Elite will not show a profile that specifically names the Virpil hardware. It feels more robust than the Logitech X-52 and X-56, but lighter than the all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog. I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. ELITE DANGEROUS TRAINING Challenge Scenarios INCURSIONS Let's play in 2023 | PC | 4K | Live Stream | Solo / Alone NOOB w HOSAS VKB + Virpil #elitedangerous . - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. Just wish they would have shipped with more replacement parts if they're so prone to breaking under regular usage. How convert Warthog grip for VKB standard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3OC6-CBv4. In this review, we'll take a closer look at Virpil's MongoosT-50CM2 throttle, comparing it with the popular Thrustmaster TWCS. How easy was the software to learn? 12V/7.5A. My advice, of course, is to give the scalpers a wide berth. I do play in VR pretty often, so the numerous buttons at my fingertips on the Virpil stick apeals to me. - Virpil WARbrd vs VKB: WARbrd base has movement range of +/-22 degrees, where as the VKB bases have +/-15 degrees. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a . All rights reserved I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. It may show you something you did wrong. What little product is actually available even used equipment is going for wildly inflated prices. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. > Sales Will cost me less money since I can just plug in my Warthog without having to buy that $50 adapter from VKB. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? The Virpil Constellation Alpha also comes in a left-handed variant. Toe in and out being the most prominent I can see. Better still, the Constellations side-mounted thumbsticks mean that you can actually navigate on foot without ever taking your hands off the joysticks. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a additional electronic/mechanic adapter ($60), but their Gunfigther Mk.II* base wasoptimized for deal withWarthoggrip weight. That brings the price for a full HOTAS mounting solution closer to $180. If you have the budget for it, I'd say wait a week to see some reviews for the MCG Ultimate. I use Joystick gremlin, so elite can see all the buttons on the throttle. It works perfectly with all buttons. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. But, if youre looking to spend a relatively modest amount of money on a more general purpose device something that might work with terrestrial and space flight I recommend you take a look at Virpil Controls, a small European company that is doing some really remarkable work. Common sense tells me that the Gladiator NXT is the sensible option. VKB keep iterating through new revisions of their products, sometimes breaking backwards compatibility. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Nice descriptions. 2 - is virpil worth the extra $200+ more and a very long wait. Another highlight for me were Virpils Ace Interceptor Rudder Pedals. TECS (Twin Engine Control System) is a completely new throttle control device made for today's and future jet warbirds. 3 - anyone with theses setups i am conimg from a logitech x56 how to they compare in terms of build quality and feel? I have zero complaints about it. Those look awfully nice. Virpil has the better engineers. Elite also won't recognize any button inputs that are greater than #32. (e.g. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You can blame Microsoft Flight Simulator for the flight stick shortage were experiencing. I read somewhere that you need the virpil software to tell the OS that it's 2 different inputs. 03.03.20|The sheets for the ALPHA-grips have been updated (the dual-push for the scroll encoder has been added and there was a problem with duplicating entries). The non-marking pads on the mounting hardware, for instance, began to slide off after several weeks of continuous use. Looks like the Virpil devices need more power that I have available. It will simply store your configuation under "custom". Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. Currently have a CM2 grip/CM2 base with a T-50 v3 throttle and ACE-2 peddles for flight sims, as well as a Alpha-R primary with an Alpha-L/WarBRD for offhand in space. Been rocking dual gladiator Ks for a while now (they have been discontinued and replaced with the NXT) but just recently, with just under about 6 months of use I've been having a few small things breaking. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. The only other thing up in the same price and perhaps build quality (I don't truly know about them either other than what I've read here, they're trying at least) is Winwing but their stick option is much more limited in overall controls. I have a VKB stick/pedals and a Virpil throttle, and I feel that VKB hardware is higher quality overall (mostly due to the electronics/internals). I'd consider myself a fairly casual player that is fortunate enough to have enough expendable money for lavish purchases such as this. First, the documentation on these products ranges from awful to non-existent. Unless you know where they are on the sticks, it'll be very confusing. It took me 6 months before I could get my order in for the Alpha. Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). Initially it was all a bit daunting but after a fair bit of reading various threads this is where I'm at A bit about my requirements - Got to be desktop based. This is significant. It has about twice as many buttons as Microsoft Windows recognizes on a game controller, which means youll need to take some extra time to get it tuned before you hop into a game. After correspondence with Virpil I have to load and create a profile for each device individually, one at a time. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. in Elite I set one hat to move pips to weaps / sys / eng, 4th position being the 'reset', but I can also long press in the 'weap' direction to activate a macro that 'resets' and quickly bumps to my preferred overall 'fighting' weap-sys distribution, or same thing in the 'engine' direction quickly gets me to run-away distribution. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. Lastly if you have any thoughts please let me know as i know for some spending this kind of money is easy but for its hard for me as now that i have a young family money isnt just failing out of my wallet and i want to make the right purchase as i can barely afford to do it once. So whats a budding flight or space sim enthusiast to do? Press J to jump to the feed. Hub 3.0 Powered 90W Data Hub, Multiport 16 Port Powered 12V/7.5A Adapter Still getting the 'need to remove some devices '. Somebody has also made some printable maps so that you can record what and where you have settings. However, worse was that ED (and Il-2 and DCS) now do not recognize any of the axes on the throttle. I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. Was looking at getting a new one but decided I might as well upgrade to either the VKB Gunfighter or Virpril T50 and would love some advice and opinions on both setups. Is the base the same on both? You might want to look for something with versatility since a lot of REALLY nice sticks try to fit specific requirements, like DCS OR ELITE rather than DCS AND ELITE. And every one but a single dial is bound. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. There really is plenty. Can't speak for Virpil as I've got VKB, so disclosure, obviously this is possibly biased opinion. By The products are engineered solid and no-bullshit. Maybe I have too many devices plugged in. Good news for fans of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. I definitely have more than 38 inputs on my x55. Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. Have you tried each device individually with nothing else plugged in? But it might give you some ideas regarding quantity of controls being 'enough'. Logitech, Thrustmaster, and many of the big name manufacturers are out of stock everywhere you look. The right-hand stick still has complete control of pitch and yaw, while rudder pedals handle roll. Maybe you should check out youtube and see the posts about how to do the setup. What it really comes down to is whether you plan to use the twist. September 8, 2019 in Hardware, Software and Controllers. VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. Have a look through the Virpil forums. Complete your WWII Flight Sim setup with this GNX Combo Throttle The VKB is slightly more refined whilst the Virpil is heavier duty. I only have experience with vkb, but from everything I've read on here they are, for the most part, neck and neck, and I can't see you being disappointed with either. It features a dead-simple clamp with an adjustable bite, which you can dial in to firmly grasp the edge of your desk surface and hold fast. I used this for my warthog. * Gunfighter Mk.III is to be released, "soon". I have both and for me the VKB just wins out. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). I have a warthog here, definitely above other sticks I owned, I feel like Virpils are too. Vs the VKB Gunfighter MK3 with the modern combat edition grip and 200mm s curve extension for 433.13 euro ($707.21 aud) (includes shipping). If I had to choose one it would be an Alpha L or R whichever was needed, and as a pair Virpil arguably makes the best HOSAS you can get. The impact was especially prominent in Star Citizen, which has much faster ships and far more aggressive combat. Gonna sound real silly but I miss the days of walking into a electronics shop and being able to actually try the feel of the sticks out. You must log in or register to reply here. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. The full analog mini on both (plus the option of the second which is switchable from digital hat to analog on the fly on the MCG Pro) offers additional axes besides the main X/Y. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy (~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. > Tutorials and everything HOTAS related. I have a good comparison of VKB and Virpil looking at the Modern Combat Grip (Their other premium grip, recently being re-released in an all-metal build) and the Constellation-Alpha, and they perform nearly identical in my opinion.. My personal experience with VKB's Kosmosima grip (the grip that comes in their MK3 space combat edition package) is very negative. Either way, in terms of quality and build at least it seems like a toss up. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. Overall, Im smitten with these Virpil controls. Cookie Notice All rights reserved. There are some there. I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. Previously I had played spaceflight simulation games with a single stick and throttle, which is known as a hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) setup. Theres even a line of collective grips on the way, which will be perfect for the new helicopters coming to DCS World and Microsoft Flight Simulator in the not-to-distant future. And just last night the plastic peg for one of the hat switches snapped. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The MCG Pro also has the brake axis and technically the flip-up trigger is ALSO an axis although more often used as a couple of different buttons. I will be using the TM Warthog grip with a stickextension, so if anyone happens to run a similar setup on either the VKB or Virpil yourthoughts will be greatly appreciated. Has a learning curve for sure, but I wholly recommend Virpil. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. In terms of bases I like my VKB base a bit more than my Vipril base. If you go with a HOTAS solution instead, making use of one of Virpils fully-customizable throttle boxes, youll need a slightly larger version of the clamp and a special adapter plate. Same would be true with the Gunfighter. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). VKB vs Thrustmaster T16000M Ken Cikas 1.4K subscribers Subscribe 20K views 3 years ago Put about 170 hours into Elite Dangerous and this T16000M from Thrustmaster is about done so I. Right? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Out of the box, Virpils large, grippy rubber feet stay put on most surfaces. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. You are using an out of date browser. Money isn't really an issue for me. The Gunfighter is apparently available so even though I probably don't need it, common sense might desert me and I'll plump for the pricier option just because I cant wait. This applies to the connector between grip and base. Using a Virpil HOTAS in Elite Dangerous Ken Cikas 1.25K subscribers Subscribe 61 Share 7.4K views 2 years ago Finally got around to editing this down. Yes I followrd their guide. Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. Please enter a valid email and try again. Also the virpil stick might cost more as i have read that somepeople buying it in Australia have had to pay GST (tax) on it. > Pictures For using the Warthog grip, the easier to work with would be the Virpil base, as it uses the same pinout/connections. 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Please note you will lose the axis on the brake lever that comes with the Virpil grip, as the Warthog grip only supports button press on that lever. I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. The only things I don't have as mapped out as I'd ideally like for VR are camera and perhaps fighter pilot commands. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. My VKB Controls My Universe Gladiator NXT Joysticks Shop our Gladiator NXT EVO Series of Joysticks Gladiator NXT EVO 'Space Combat Edition' - Left Hand From $135.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO 'Space Combat Edition' - Right Hand From $135.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - Left Hand $175.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - Right Hand 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? ED doesn't 'see' any controllers using the bindings files, check whether you can actuallly bind any of the controls to an action and then create your own bindings file. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So I did that, but two things happened: one was checking in Windows, I saw THREE T-50 CM throttles, although ED now could see all the panel buttons and switches. You would basically map your joysticks inputs past 32 to a virtual vjoy device then you are all set. Virpil also may be a little easier to get your hands on sooner rather than later. That's weird because normally a USB 3 controller can supposedly support up to 127 devices. What do you mean by splitting axes? Ive had a pretty good experience with the Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals for the last few years, but they hang from a large central column that takes up a lot of space in my office. Still other manufacturers are taking pre-orders, and then banging out new units as quickly as they can. I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. Hey rick, yeah you will want to use Joy Gremlin or Universal Control Remapper alongside vjoy. It would be wrong to say that TECS "worthily follows the line of VKB engineering tradition . The V3-S also opens the door to additional customization options, including mounts that hang a keyboard, mouse pad, additional button boxes, and more all off of the same clamp. They strike a good balance between price point and feature set, sitting comfortably in between classics like the Logitech X-52 and the Thrustmaster T16000, and higher end products from Thrustmaster and VKB. Plus half of what I would need from VKB is out of stock. After nearly a decade of watching modest, incremental improvements in the space its nice to see a manufacturer innovating with their flight sticks. > DIY Privacy Policy. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. See our ethics statement. With those limitations in mind, I still cant help but recommend Virpil. I've spent the last couple of days researching all this so here is my thought process which may also help with your decision. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. Here's my mapping for Elite, perhaps a little out of date re: some of the macros I mentioned above, and admittedly I use my LH stick weird (sideways oriented as a throttle) so I've converted an axis to 'relative' mode with a button as reset, which removes it from use as a button in-game. Note that youll need two of the Desk Mount V3-S devices for a HOSAS solution using the Virpil Constellation sticks, which brings the price of accessories up to $140. Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. I have a Virpil cm2 throttle and a vkb gladiator nxt. I've taught myself how to use Virpil software, but the VKB software looks much more complex and the documentation seems lacking (translated) with many features only described in forum posts. Both can be gotten with twist. I could hit the gas on the main thruster to accelerate forward, rotate my ship in place, then roll left while also moving slightly down and sliding to the right all at the same time. i use a steam controller and nothing else mostly unless i need a hotkey for certain things on the keyboard. I want to choose the best one for nice grip and feel, reaching buttons with s/med hands, good button placement, usability with Elite and SC, easy twisting for yaw and good centring with no drift. Jmo So just swap grips and flash firmware for the. I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. 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