Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Neither one can possibly be BG. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. He's a guy. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. Unverified but Likely. I have been searching for the witnesses, DP. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. So Skip Jansen and DGo are different people that just happen to share the same "suspect" and theories? Oh, one more thing, Jim. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. You want me to put it up? I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 2 /// 510 Part 2 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Do not release information that can be used to do the same or join in attacks conducted by others. We do indeed have documents from the case. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. They say they want to prevent false confessions. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? FAIR USE Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Kelsi German has been cleared. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. Sorry for this poorly worded question. You just dont know what a person is capable of. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. They were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, Fox59 reported, which is part of the Delphi. You had mentioned in one of your blogs not being sure what he did for a living. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. 242? The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. I have no inside info, never been to the area and cant pretend Im going to solve the case. I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. The document, obtained by "Murder Sheet Podcast," was provided to NewsNation affiliate WXIN on Tuesday. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! Idle speculation at its finest. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. is that creepy guy still following us?. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. He's former military and former LE. Search results for "A Lindsey McCall Medical Mystery" at Rakuten Kobo. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. Hes in prison where he belongs. Only a deer kit looks just like that. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. Like a coward, we would add. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. 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How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. Knives. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. Hi folks! So if any POIs happen to get charged with a felony (not related to being BG), it's a hurry up and wait but don't take too long kind of game. Come on, people. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. I have an official case document here in my hand. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. . Since the murders, Indiana Landmarks placed a temporary fence at the north end of the bridge and a sign warning against trespassing. FSG knew everyone in town. He even brought his phone in and took it apart to reveal the GPS device in it so they could look at it. Required fields are marked *. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. Hard to believe that there are two DPs and two QPs in such a small area. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. Sure hes a greedy businessman, but I doubt if hes that greedy. Tragedy struck the small town of Delphi, Indiana on , when Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were murdered on a hiking trail. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Oh, one more thing. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. He was searching for the girls. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. WRITTEN IN CAPS, APOLOGIES, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. to find the killer or team of killers. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. He only discusses facts. I have one more message for you. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. DELPHI, Ind. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. ***************Tip Line: 735-822-3535Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comBehind The Crime Door Intro courtesy of:Graphics done by: Grizzmaticly Clever Music by: Techdeath Hippie https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyOgSong: The RequiemTip Line: 844-459-5786 Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. There was posing. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The only person who should be offended or feel threatened is BG because nothing was directed to anyone other then him. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. I really dont see a motive for RL. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. @Amber- Last week some tweaker who had clearly been up for days on meth, posted non stop on multiple groups, and on his own page, that his father and young son were the killers with zero evidence. At least three women have told News 8 that they received disturbing messages from either the anthony_shots profile or the personal account of Kegan Kline. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. @Skip, I must have the wrong name for your POI? We will discuss Ethics in reporting and other significant issues surrounding the case!Join Me Behind The Crime Door.\"Where Nothing Is Ever As It Seems!\" Super Thanks option is now available for those who appreciate the replays and want to support. Delphi I do believe will be solved soon and I hope for the family it will be. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. What time was RL on video eating pizza? It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. DELPHI, Ind. Correct. Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. . If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Good question and we have no answer to it. There was a rumor that he was "unaccounted for" for 45 minutes around the time of the murders. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. For a FREE month of listening go to http://stitcherpremium.com/truecrimegarage and use promo code GARAGEBeer Fund: https://truecrimegarage.com/home. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. Thanks for your time. (WISH) News 8 has learned hundreds of tips have come in to authorities about a social media profile that may be connected to the 2017 Delphi murders of two teens. Drunkard perhaps. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. I will. However, there was one little problem. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. I know some people are upset for this style of episodes and so be it. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. In addition, we may have more documents. There will be no name calling from me. If anyone has arguments for or against dp please direct message me info! I find your blog very interesting. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Lists a factory as place of residence. Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? But answer me this. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. Same spelling as well. Too much points to them to be coincidence. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. The others are guardians. Lilly CEO outlines insulin price cap plan, Boone County Sheriffs Office preparing for upcoming changes, Jalen Carter, Georgia star lineman,faces charges in fatal crash, Why your favorite blockbuster probably wont win best picture at the Oscars. 2-13; 2:13: The girls were abducted at precisely 2:13 PM. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? I agree I hope CN and this new guy do sue you. RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. 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