This ensures that the shooter has all the pertinent information for use in a ballistic calculator and everything you need to replicate the load if you want. Magpro had a lot of case capacity left, but wasnt getting the velocity Id hope to see without just burning a ton of powder. Hornady has an incredible track record with cartridges over the last 20 years: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 300 PRC, 17HMR. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. ballistics software below for the same load: At 500 yards the remaining velocity is 2264fps again, this is exceptional ballistics for a bullet weight in this class and diameter. [emailprotected]. RCC brass is the only place that has it, but the prices are wild at $6 per piece. Thanks for all the helpful info on the 7PRC. Leave nothing to chance, because great things dont happen on accident. Shots at game at 800 yards are extreme and should only be attempted by shooters that are using the right equipment, and have the coaching and preparation to positively make the shot. Please consider including this in future. Increasing the BC to 0.700 the drift is only half, at 20 inches! This is using CCI Large Magnum primers, and shooting out of a 24 test barrel. Did you perhaps mean 50 cm? Hey Jim, thanks for all the great content. Everything was sub 1/2 moa from 59.5 to 62 grains. The first, and most obvious is the effect of gravity. Shots near the max effective range can totally miss the animal if you misjudge the distance by 50-yards. I also received some information from a gentleman in Canada who built a 7PRC. I would be happy if I could confirm 900-1K. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. ballistics app/software that you can understand and use in the field (either target shooting or hunting). Custom Ammo:Upon request we can provide you with custom loaded ammunition. Winchester told me they arent planning a series. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. NEED ADVICE!!! bearcat2; Nov . If you do not have a Shooting Chronograph, I strongly suggest you purchase one. if you looking at 1000 yards I would be looking at a different rifle , Something more like a 50 BMG , 6.5 to be honest. Maybe you could do a future video on it? 1000 yard 7mm mag. Ill keep pushing my 7RM 180gr at 3050 with 72.2gr Retumbo with brass more available than I could ever want or need. Thats one flat shooting load considering we sighted-in the bullet to impact only 2.37 inches high at 100 yards. While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. Initially, I expected H1000 or Retumbo to be the best powders for the 7 PRC since they are fan favorites of the 7 Mag. This is more than adequate for taking down large game the size of elk at this distance, provided you use the right bullet to penetrate to reach the vitals and place the shot accurately. Practical distance isnt the same as the max distance a rifle can shoot. Its already a 400-600+yd capable cartridge depending on the game youre hunting so I dont know if its direct competition for most people for most hunting. A rule of thumb I use is if an animal is walking, shots need to be twice as close. Interestingly, I loaded 61.2 grains of H4831SC in a 7mm Remington Magnum, and a 7mm PRC. Now I need to look at the 7.62x54R. Will be suppressed at times, but in a effort to save weight on certain hunts will ditch the can(7 TBAC Ultra). I highly recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks for this job. Load Swift's 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. Copyright 2023 ShootersCalculator.comALL rights reserved. I use a Griffin ultra-light 30 cal suppressor and in all of my rifles I average around a 60 FPS velosity gain over a brake. The 7 PRC is designed around the 180-grain ELD-Match bullet; however, some people will certainly point to the fact that the 7mm Rem Mag has been able to shoot 180-grain bullets for many decades. Thats exactly what the 7PRC is, but it is by no means the only cartridge that offers those specs. I think your numbers might be off. As we examine the drop and deflection of a bullet it becomes apparent that BC and velocity are very important parameters for shooting at long range. The 284 as used by benchrest shooters at 1000-yard matches uses a 180-grain bullet in along action. Corriolis effects from the earths rotation also needs to be compensated for. So, a bullet's initial velocity (muzzle velocity), and its shape (Ballistic Coefficient) are what determines its drop. Re#26 69 grs pushes a 162 gr A- max 3225 fps. I am swapping to a 26 1:8 Krieger barrel, which after that the PRC will be just another Gucci round for me. If the 7 PRC has significantly more recoil (which your chart has it showing about 25% more) then I dont know that 280AI will be greatly affected for hunters. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC Testing 160-168 Gr bullets. I was looking at having Preferred Barrels make me a 7mm PRC similar to what you have shown. How does the 7mm Rem Mag achieve such ballistics? Ive been playing around with Berger 190g Long Range Hybrid Targets. Can you tell me which suppressor you are using? The .204 ruger for varmints, 6.5 prc for deer and elk but also moose, then the daddy of short mags the 300wsm which can really handle elk moose and brown bears. You have to find the right balance of weight and aerodynamics. In summary, this is why the 7mm Rem Magnum is an excellent ballistic performer. The maximum effective range of the 6.5 PRC for hunting is approximately 730 yards, at which distance many bullets will slow below 1,900 fps which can cause a bullet to fail to expand. What are the speeds youre getting with your 20 barrel? But wait, theres more. However, why was the 8mm Mauser left out of this comparison? Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind. Personally my mind goes towards hot rodding medium-to-heavy-for-caliber monos in the 150-175 grain range at 3200 -> 3000+ for long range expansion on game. Jim, nice summary on the 7PRC. Where can I get 7 PRC brass? We don't need to do math, we'll just use one of the many ballistics programs that are availableif you are interested, try the free online program I put together atwww.gseven.com. Do you plan to hit every animal with a rangefinder? 7 PRC would be a nice step down in recoil from a 300 win mag as long as you choose a lighter bullet. Rifle Ammunition Product Lines: AG American Gunner . I have a complete article on the best rifles available now in 7mm PRC. Our reference system will take 1.3 seconds to reach 1000 yards. Im not talking about self-doubt or simply asking yourself what if I miss. I will likely switch to that bullet once it becomes available. The #1 reason I recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks is because theyve sorted through those issues and can deliver problem-free prefit barrels. At the same time, while the 7mm Rem Mag tops out with 175 grain bullets, the .300 Win Mag is capable of firing 200 grain, 208 grain, and 220 grain bullets with sectional densities of .301, .313, and .331 respectively. Be cautious when rebarreling a rifle into any of the PRC cartridges. Wonderful! At the moment of truth, if you arent sure you will make a good shot, dont squeeze the trigger. ballistics software for your PC & Mac. Privacy The 6.5 Creedmoor has long been known to cause damage to the International Space Station with errant shots. Thread starter redneck watchdog; Start date Dec 8, 2011; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Using this as a reference, let's examine several other factors that can effect our shot placement. I just hope I gave you a little something to consider. Surprisingly, the factory ammunition for the 160gr CX bullet offers the same 3,000fps muzzle velocity as the 175gr ELD-X bullet. Do not rely on my anecdotal testing for your rifle. I was about to embark on a 7 Saum build in a long action to use the longer, higher BC bullets. Im guessing that the parent cartridge for this is the .416, but thats really a guess. This would negate most of the recoil pain and serve as a solid replacement for 7mm Rem Mag without the belt pain. The 7 RM is too established to go away similar to how the 300 PRC didnt completely eliminate 300 WM sales nor did they likely affect 30-06 sales. Seems like they are trying to reinvent the wheel given that the 7mm STW (strangely missing from this article for comparisons) does everything the 7mm PRC does and more for over 40 years: 180gr in the 3000-3200fps range. We will also provide a dummy round for you to take measurements if requested. Thank you. Its just another very similar round with no clear huge advantages, maybe only recoil. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. Still a decent amount of case capacity left. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. If I add to that a gusty 25 mph wind, Im not shooting past 200 yards. Your email address will not be published. I actually found RCBS to have the dies. 2020 Sierra Bullets Do you have any MV numbers from your 20. Whidden Gunworks doesnt show 7mm PRC offering on their website. Obviously Hornady makes dies for the 7 PRC, but I personally am not a fan of their dies. Ive got it sending the 162 grain ELD-X 3200 FPS. That adds up to a difference of point of impact between shooting east and west of nearly seven inches. Ive constructed a similar table that takes into account bullet construction, including expansion ratios and weight retention over time, and Id be curious to get your opinion on it. there are plenty of rifles capable of 1000 yards but if your looking for something that wont drop 10 ft there are better choices. Sorry man, wasn't going after anyone, it's a hotly contested issue around the guys I run with, guess i just assumed it would be here too. 24 is the reference data from Hornady, but I have a 20 barrel and am still getting nice velocities. However, hunters who choose to use gear that does not meet this standard are often forced to either make an unethical shot or to pass up shot opportunities when the elk isnt turned the right way. V-MAX . I have two bags of W-W virgin brass and enough multi-fired brass to last me the rest of my life. burning 61 grains Reloder 22 Recoil: 26.5 ft-lbs at 14.6 fps velocity Muzzle Energy: 3,269 ft-lbs Maximum Pressure: 61,000 psi MPBR: 365 yards (Zero at 307 yards, 3.9" high at 100 yards) These are some impressive numbers. It's like these other guys said, if you throw a small rock it goes really fast, but not very far. The 7mm, however, seamlessly made the transition to . Not all bullets are Max-Range bullets. is beginning to assert its trajectory superiority here with a 5-inch advantage over the .270 Win. The cool thing is that Preferred Barrel Blanks does prefits for just about any action you already have. Im sure people will certainly use the cartridge for many things. Little things that you may never have noticed can make a shot fail if you are really pushing the limits. Note that with these loads, I switch to a standard large rifle primernot a magnum primer. 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