Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. So, that is where your decision lies if the small and inexpensive heater does not cost any more to use and will heat the same square footageDo you feel safe with the cheap one? Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. LMAO, i will say for one i have a ranch style home and its 1800 sq ft and i dont use ne thing but an eden pure except sometimes an additional space heater in my bedroom wich is nearly half my house and i tel ya it does stay war,m i have put plastic and stuff up but in reality i was payin 300 plus a month and now its always under 250 so somthin workn cause i write my monthly bills on a calendar to compare and believe me th thermostat stays off and so do eden pure at nite soo i duno if u got a 3 story mansion i wouldnt worry if ur one level get one is my advice. Well it depends on what version you get. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. We bought edenpure in September. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. Im just another sucker. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. If it heats, cools, moves air or water, we do it. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. It does nor really matter what type of heat source is used: gas, electric, oil, wood, solar, wind etc. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. I'll definitely buy another. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. 107 people named Bill Burkett found in Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Jacksonville and 17 other cities. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." the unfortunate part is, that double-wide homes MANY TIMES (not always) have poor ductwork systems (leaky or poor quality ductwork) or inexpensive heat pump systems. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Inexpensive Electric Heaters The Biggest Claim of All Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! less per month power bill. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. The film, directed and produced by Canton, Ohio native Doug Dearth and starring Logan Huffman, is the classic David-and-Goliath story centered around a small-town football team. Browse Locations. Price? Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. :). Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. With D.B. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. Design in an electric heater is everything. 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. They promote using zone heating to save money. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Nothing is 100% efficient. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. I am preparing to do that now. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. Crawfordville, FL (1) Daytona Beach (FL) (4) Fort Myers-Cape Coral (FL) (6) Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (FL) (1) In some situations yes but in some no. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Talk about a rip off. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. The heater is a point source of heat. A big amen to all you have posted. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. perputhen live stream / joshua andrews obituary. So reliability can be good or bad. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. These systems the japanese use do not use ducts!!! Even a child knows that hot air rises. Trust me. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure, Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. The patently false claim of the alleged benefits of "cured copper" has been widely discussed and deservedly ridiculed in blogs and forums. You do the math. Coo-coo ka-choo, Mrs. Robinson, Mr.Jones has left and gone away, hey, hey, hey." So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. Thank you so much! Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. The clue is in the word personal . I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Same reasons. bl. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Bill Burkett Wiki: Salary, Married, Wedding, Spouse, Family Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. . AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. June 10, 2022 bardowie loch parking. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. No more, no less. As well as my cats! It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. Edenpure heaters are a scam. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. Any way, thank you. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. There are none so blind as those who will not see. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? When you move to another room, the EdenPure goes with you. This sure seems to be a scam. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. The peddlers of these overpriced 1500-watt heaters such as Edenpure and the highly-advertised "Amish" heaters are ripping off many gullible folks who are seeking ways to save on energy costs. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. Sale price $247.00 Sale. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. Igrosfera.org / / bill burkett heaters. Love my EdenPURE heater! I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. Until recently, Eden Pure ads claimed their technology was based on the serendipitous finding by some farmer named "John Jones." He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. FACT: Of course it will. Earlier this month, Bill Burkett, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Texas National Guard and the man who provided CBS producers with the controversial documents at the heart of the "60. While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. to produce those BTUs. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. Heat is the movement of air molecules. Another way to do this is to just turn down your thermostat. Caveat emptor. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Regular price. I often think these celebrities who endorse products do not really check completely into them. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. It will cost more. Nothing has changed. Any electric heater is 100% efficient. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. Just picked one from trash. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. Its safer than most to. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. How? Felt bad for the guy. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. Coincidentally, Burkett is the father of St. Aquinas' star quarterback Bobby (Logan Huffman) and his struggle to assert his copyright against his conniving space heater magnate boss (Richard . Within a month the heating capacity was diminished 50 %. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Are the so called experts on here thick or something. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent different tech generate! 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